Mayayana,
I'd be interested in that if you have code or docs you're willing to
share
I've got both. I can only verify its usefullness for OE as provided with
W98 and XP though.
I've got stored HTML pages (some from the now defunct oe5dbx.aroh.de
website -- if you want you could also check if the "wayback machine" still
has them -- and some ZIP files with downloads on the same subject in both
cpp and pascal.
I've got a full program with which you can browse messages inside a .DBX .
Its fully assembly though. And, don't laugh, I still got code written in
QBASIC which can do pretty-much the same -- though not as neat.
And I also have some unfinished(!) work on that directdb.dll I mentioned in
my previous message.
So, make your choice(s). And although I could copy/paste the textified
contents of the HTML pages and/or a listings in a number of messages here, I
don't think that is what this newgroup is ment for. In other words, I would
need some website to upload them to (plain HTML, otherwise my browser
refuses to cooperate -- on my strict orders ofcourse :-) ), or some
(temporary) email address. Or ofcourse a (binary) newsgroup ment for such
exchanges (of which I have no idea if they even exist, but we *could* use
a(ny) now-defunct group for it if need be).
But if I had docs I'd like to write a script to extract the emails into a
nice neat TXT file
Now you're forcing my hand ... I even wrote an ActiveX component (which I
access using VBScript) which is able, in its own clumsy way, to extract
whatever fields you want from it. But although it works, its currently not
really "user friendly" though.
It's surprising how common that is.
Yup.
Some people just really like rules and like nothing
more than to tell you their version of the rules.
Tell me about it. Those, and the posting/usenet-rule nazis. They would
not recognise a top posting if it would punch them in the face, but
according to a number of them my posting style certainly is -- probably
because I always leave the message I'm replying to as an "attachement" at
the bottom. Always clearly marked as such, but some people simply cannot, or
just refuse to read. :-(
And when, after they categorically refuse to even consider that top posting
is a bit different, I than explain to them that a rule without a means to
enforce it is meaningless their mental needle just jumps a groove back and
they regurgite the same thing all over again.
The commercial MS partner types have a lot of ideas about what's
kosher and what isn't.
Yup. Met them too. I always wonder how they can actually write
*anything* new, as they seemingly are only allowed to use what MS has
already described (in docs or in example code presumably). And my
preferred "see how stuff breaks and learn from it" approach ? Its as if
they see water burn/satan personified. :-)
I pointed out that the IE wrapper functions are rather hokey and allow
cache/cookies. Someone argued that those are system cookies and cache,
not IE cookies and cache.
Yeah, and where are those system cookies and cache supposed to be stored ?
Besides, IE *is* the system -- with the browser just being a rather small
graphical shell ontop of all the components which are part of the system.
Point-in-fact: being able to access the web by entering an URL in the
addres-bar of your *file* explorer. Being able to initiate a search by
putting two-or-more words in that same addres bar. All *without* having IE
installed (it annoys me to no end, with or without IE being installed).
As such, they're normal and are supposed to be connected to downloads.
It was an odd debate.
You can say that again. What a pompous moron. But yes, I met those types
too. I'm starting to learn to terminate conversations with them though.
Maybe I will get the hang of it before I'm old-and-dead. :-)
The kind of jobs where they're looking for "dedicated team players"
AKA lackeys who don't mind working late for a set salary.
Yup. But isn't that true of most jobs ? Although a humorously ment
website like https://notalwaysright.com/ is'n really representative, the
stories are often similar: Work till you drop, and don't you dare to give
lip.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
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| My own story in that regard is that I, years ago, spend a *lot* of time
with
| decoding the .DBX files belonging to Outlook Express.
I'd be interested in that if you have code or docs
you're willing to share. Just last week I wanted to find an
old email and went to an OE backup. I was surprised
to find that DBX extractors are very expensive. I
ended up with a search in Notepad. But if I had docs
I'd like to write a script to extract the emails into
a nice neat TXT file, or maybe an MSI database,
for better longterm backup.
|
| And than of course the bad encounters: Like a few months back me posting
a
| simple question with all the relevant data and a code snippet in a C++
| forum, and than getting flack because I either should not even be thinking
| of doing something like that
|
It's surprising how common that is. I get it all
the time, still, in the VB group. I've had arguments
over it. I think it's an issue of personality style.
Some people just really like rules and like nothing
more than to tell you their version of the rules.
The IE wrapper API was actually one of
those arguments. The commercial MS partner
types have a lot of ideas about what's kosher
and what isn't. They don't think anyone should
be mucking around with winsock. I pointed out
that the IE wrapper functions are rather hokey
and allow cache/cookies. Someone argued that
those are system cookies and cache, not IE
cookies and cache. As such, they're normal and
are supposed to be connected to downloads.
It was an odd debate. This was a professional
programmer with a lot of experience, but who had
completely fallen for Microsoft's IE-is-the-Internet
scam. There was no way to even explain the idea
that cookies and cache belong to browsers, not OSs.
I've never worked in any kind of tech office and
have been self-employed for most of my life, but
from what I've seen I get the sense that many
such operations -- like many office jobs in general
-- are paramilitary social structures with lots of
hierarchy. The kind of jobs where they're looking
for "dedicated team players" AKA lackeys who don't
mind working late for a set salary.